How is it possible after so much challenge when we are hearing that voice over and over again, when we are telling ourselves I can't do this anymore, can we actually find that trust within us that we can?
We going to be okay. We can do this. When I think about this, the only answer I find is daily practice. Daily practice. A deep commitment to riding the wave of hearing that voice in my head. Not judging it, not rejecting it. Not hating it. But hearing it and riding like a surfer on a wave. Yep. There it is. And now it's going to go back down again, not denying any of the steps, even the awful mean ones in my head.
And then I come back to what I have had to really consciously create as a belief because I've turned this way of thinking into a habit. Look how much I've already been through.
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Welcome to the happy mama movement podcast.
Speaker:I'm Amy Taylor-Kabbaz.
Speaker:I would like to start by acknowledging the Gadigal people of the aura nation
Speaker:on which this podcast is recorded as the traditional custodians of this land.
Speaker:And pay my respects to the elders past, present and emerging.
Speaker:And as this podcast is dedicated to the wisdom and knowledge of motherhood, I
Speaker:would like to acknowledge the mothers of this land, the elders, their wisdom.
Speaker:Their knowing and my own elders and teachers.
Speaker:Welcome back Mamas.
Speaker:I remember when I brought Scarlet, my first child, home and those first
Speaker:days, weeks were the hardest time of my life, or so I thought at the time.
Speaker:And I would hear that inner mean mama mantra of I can't do this anymore.
Speaker:I can't do this.
Speaker:I can't do this.
Speaker:I can't do this.
Speaker:And it consumed me.
Speaker:This voice in my head saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Speaker:I didn't know how to get out of that space.
Speaker:I didn't know how to turn it around.
Speaker:I didn't even know it was possible at the time to turn those thoughts around.
Speaker:That mantra of, I can't do this anymore, has stayed with me for many years.
Speaker:But it's been one of the greatest gifts of my life.
Speaker:Because to have such a clear defeatist voice in my head so easily heard in every
Speaker:moment has been the greatest opportunity of my life to turn things around.
Speaker:I find myself even now, going back to that, when things get hard.
Speaker:When the third child, is confirmed positive for COVID
Speaker:six weeks after the first child.
Speaker:So it feels like it's this excruciating rolling experience.
Speaker:What's the first thought, I can't do this again.
Speaker:I can't do this anymore.
Speaker:Why is it that we have these voices?
Speaker:They continue to dominate us, even when we know it's not true.
Speaker:Because that's what I've actually discovered about
Speaker:myself, in my last 45 years.
Speaker:Is that actually, no matter what I am presented with, I fricking can do it.
Speaker:I can.
Speaker:I do it every single day.
Speaker:I did the early years of motherhood.
Speaker:I did the early years of my career.
Speaker:I've been through separation and divorce and COVID and pandemics and
Speaker:all of the things I can do this.
Speaker:And yet there's the voice every damn time.
Speaker:What I love about understanding how our brain works and our thinking works
Speaker:is that it's just a habit of thinking.
Speaker:It's just a habit.
Speaker:A belief is something.
Speaker:That you think that you've turned into a habit of thinking.
Speaker:So what are the beliefs that you have right now that you've
Speaker:turned into habits of thinking?
Speaker:Perhaps it's belief that you're messing this up.
Speaker:Perhaps it's a belief that your body will never be the same.
Speaker:Perhaps it's a belief that you'll never feel supported or
Speaker:seen, that it's always up to.
Speaker:That is not our truth.
Speaker:It's not.
Speaker:But the more we sink into that truth as we think we know it,
Speaker:the more we will perpetuate it.
Speaker:So how is it possible after so much challenge when we are hearing that
Speaker:voice over and over again, when we are telling ourselves I can't do
Speaker:this anymore, can we actually find that trust within us that we can?
Speaker:We going to be okay.
Speaker:We can do this.
Speaker:When I think about this, the only answer I find is daily practice.
Speaker:Daily practice.
Speaker:A deep commitment to riding the wave of hearing that voice in my head.
Speaker:Not judging it, not rejecting it.
Speaker:Not hating it.
Speaker:But hearing it and riding like a surfer on a wave.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:There it is.
Speaker:And now it's going to go back down again, not denying any of the steps,
Speaker:even the awful mean ones in my head.
Speaker:And then I come back to what I have had to really consciously create
Speaker:as a belief because I've turned this way of thinking into a habit.
Speaker:Look how much I've already been through.
Speaker:When I was 15, I went to Japan as an exchange student.
Speaker:At the time I was in a lot of trouble at home.
Speaker:I was a completely rebellious teenager.
Speaker:Underneath the surface, I was a completely self-doubting unhappy, lost teenager.
Speaker:And I tried to find my way in the world by hanging out with the bad boys and
Speaker:the bad kids doing the bad things.
Speaker:And yet there was a part of me that also really wanted more.
Speaker:I wanted to be a journalist, even at that age.
Speaker:I also wanted to be a dancer.
Speaker:I wanted to travel the world.
Speaker:I wanted to do more.
Speaker:I just didn't believe in myself enough to think that that
Speaker:was what was possible for me.
Speaker:And yet by some stroke of luck, in other words, divine universal guidance.
Speaker:The company my father worked for at the time offered a scholarship, only three
Speaker:in Australia to travel overseas as an exchange student for a whole 12 months.
Speaker:My dad came home knowing that I was completely lost and hanging out with all
Speaker:the wrong kids and encouraged me to apply.
Speaker:I did not ever think I would get that scholarship.
Speaker:This was a multi national company.
Speaker:This was a huge company within Australia.
Speaker:How could I possibly be one of those three?
Speaker:And yet I turned out to be one of those three.
Speaker:And before I knew it, I found myself completely plucked out of my comfort
Speaker:zone, yet terribly toxic environment with my friends, and dropped into a family
Speaker:in Japan that spoke no English and was enrolled into a local girls high school
Speaker:where I was the only foreign student in the whole school for 12 months.
Speaker:When I hear that voice in my head that says, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker:I say to myself, if I did that, I can do this.
Speaker:I remember learning how to breastfeed Scarlet my first child and finding it so
Speaker:incredibly hard because she was so unwell.
Speaker:And we didn't fully understand how unwell she was and how much in pain she was.
Speaker:And just thinking, I can't do this.
Speaker:I'm failing, I'm failing.
Speaker:And it was my beautiful sister who said to me, Amy, remember you're the
Speaker:15 year old who went to Japan on her own and lived with a family who she
Speaker:couldn't communicate with and went to school every day at a school she
Speaker:couldn't communicate in and live there for 12 months and came home fluent in
Speaker:Japan, a completely different person.
Speaker:You did that.
Speaker:You just need that resilience to do this.
Speaker:And that's still what I use.
Speaker:My resilience list I lean on now is more than just when I was 15 in Japan.
Speaker:It's now going back to Japan again, to study at university when I was 20.
Speaker:It's now my three children.
Speaker:Labor, endless nights of no sleep, learning to breastfeed, juggling
Speaker:these three kids, it's moving across the country on my own without family.
Speaker:And yes, it's going through the pandemic.
Speaker:It's my marriage crumbling before my eyes, even though that's not what I wanted.
Speaker:And the heartbreak of realizing that he had pulled away towards
Speaker:someone else, it is all of these moments that I have survived.
Speaker:That allow me to say when that voice kicks in, again, I can't do this today.
Speaker:I take a breath and I say to myself, if I did that, I can do this.
Speaker:There is strength in us that we don't see.
Speaker:Not always strength that requires us to push on, but a strength that
Speaker:requires us, I believe in just backing ourselves and trusting ourselves.
Speaker:We're going to be okay.
Speaker:Did I get all of those moments and challenges in my life?
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Hell no.
Speaker:I was messy and got it wrong and was a big part of some of the problems
Speaker:and all of the things, but I did it.
Speaker:I'm here.
Speaker:I'm okay.
Speaker:Actually I'm happy.
Speaker:So Mama, whenever you doubt yourself, whenever you
Speaker:question, how can I trust this?
Speaker:Think about your resilience list.
Speaker:Think about the moments where you found something in you that got you through.
Speaker:Not in a perfect way.
Speaker:In fact, most of those times are never perfect.
Speaker:It's a knowing within you.
Speaker:It's a knowing of who you are.
Speaker:It's a knowing of who you are on the other side of it.
Speaker:Did I know who I was going to be in those months in Japan when
Speaker:I could not understand a word anybody was saying around me?
Speaker:Hell no, scariest, hardest thing.
Speaker:But I know for sure that on the other side of that scariest,
Speaker:hardest thing, I was a new person.
Speaker:And if I did that, I can do this.
Speaker:That's what we remember in these moments.
Speaker:This is scary and hard, and I don't know what I'm doing, and I
Speaker:can't even understand the language around me, but I know on the other
Speaker:side this'll be the making of me.
Speaker:Because if I did that, I can do this.
Speaker:I hope that lands in your belly and stays in your mind when you need it.
Speaker:Thank you for being a part of this conversation, Mama.
Speaker:We change the way mothers are valued and seen in our society and our world
Speaker:by bringing these conversations to light and spreading the whispers of matresence.
Speaker:And so I ask you to be a part of this movement now.
Speaker:Speak to others around you about matresence.
Speaker:About your experience of motherhood.
Speaker:Let's bring it to light together.
Speaker:To find out more about my matresence.
Speaker:Go to amytaylorkabbaz.com forward slashmatresence.
Speaker:And receive your free ebook the matresence map.
Speaker:So you can understand it even deeper.
Speaker:Thank you for being a part of this.
Speaker:Until next week.
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I'm Amy.
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